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Title: Guess the ship.
Post by: James Hutton on April 04, 2008, 09:03:16 PM
Easy thread, let's see how good your naval knowledge really is.  ;D

(http://homepages.tesco.net/~s.bell/img2.gif)

Both ships. Extra points for the name of the CO who received a posthumous VC.

James
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Post by: MikeD on April 04, 2008, 09:20:28 PM
Page 16 of Flat Top 2/1 :) ;D :-X
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Post by: James Hutton on April 04, 2008, 09:29:05 PM
Very cryptic to a relative newbie!

No points if you only supply a reference!

James
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Post by: stokerstan on April 04, 2008, 10:58:41 PM
James
If I get it right will I get another computer education session ?

    Suppose not!
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Post by: Dave on April 06, 2008, 10:56:16 PM
Hi all     HMS Glowworm :) ;)
 Thanks for the Tip  ;D
Title: Re: Guess the ship.
Post by: James Hutton on April 07, 2008, 09:14:52 AM
Next one -

(http://www.rna-10-area.co.uk/yabbfiles/Attachments/crop6.jpg)

James
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Post by: Dave on April 07, 2008, 12:23:07 PM

 It`s White :)
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Post by: James Hutton on April 07, 2008, 12:26:34 PM

 It`s White :)

It's also got a yellow funnel which should be a clue.
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Post by: Dave on April 07, 2008, 03:10:14 PM
HMS Endurance   page 24  April Navy News  ;)
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Post by: James Hutton on April 07, 2008, 05:43:30 PM
(http://www.rna-10-area.co.uk/yabbfiles/Attachments/both-names.jpg)

This ship carried two names concurrently whilst in service.

What were the names, and more importantly, why did she carry two?

James
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Post by: Dave on April 07, 2008, 06:01:06 PM

 James might be HMS Phoebe     and pass
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Post by: James Hutton on April 07, 2008, 06:12:53 PM
Correct on Phoebe, but no points for a job half done.

James
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Post by: Dave on April 07, 2008, 06:16:03 PM

 James her Pennant Number helped    :)
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Post by: MikeD on April 10, 2008, 09:55:32 PM
HMS Hero  From the TV series "Warship"  Found it in the Phoebe Association Memories Mike D  8)
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Post by: James Hutton on April 11, 2008, 09:11:31 AM
Well done Mike.

How about this one then?

Ship's name, location and circumstances gain the extra tot!

(http://www.rna-10-area.co.uk/yabbfiles/Attachments/0513104.jpg)

James
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Post by: stokerstan on April 11, 2008, 10:22:04 AM
Too easy James.  If you visit Falmouth and go to Fish Strand Quay you will see the plaque with news of Trafalgar; ten yards to the right second plaque for operation chariot and the five V.C.s won.

Easy, peasy!!!!!!!! Bring on the tough ones.

Stoker Stan
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Post by: James Hutton on April 11, 2008, 10:35:36 AM
OK Stan,

This obscure enough?

(http://www.rna-10-area.co.uk/yabbfiles/Attachments/pic.jpg)

James
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Post by: MikeD on April 11, 2008, 03:18:21 PM
James I do not know the ship but do you know the relevance and history of the pennant?   ??? ???
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Post by: stokerstan on April 11, 2008, 03:39:29 PM
Got me on this one James, looks WW1 but could be wrong! As for pennants I never spent enough time on the upper deck to know what a pennant was. But that certainly looks like a Yankee flag

Stan
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Post by: James Hutton on April 11, 2008, 04:37:59 PM
Don't let the flag put you off.

And just a little later than WW1

James
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Post by: James Hutton on April 13, 2008, 09:29:46 PM
Well, Cath got it. It's the Mighty Hood on the Empire Cruise.

Next one - I don't want the ship.

(http://www.battleships-cruisers.co.uk/images/hmstenbympl2888.jpg)

Remember, not the ship but the name of the Naval Commander who was committed to the deep from this ship in 1967. Just to help you, a photo of the actual committal.
(http://www.rna-10-area.co.uk/yabbfiles/Attachments/9.jpg)
Look closely and you'll see the name of the ship.

James
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Post by: MikeD on April 13, 2008, 10:09:48 PM
Sounds like Commander Crabbe, the diver trhat went missing after the Russian ships with Krushcof and Bulgarin visited.
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Post by: James Hutton on April 14, 2008, 07:44:07 AM
Mike,

It's not Lionel "Buster" Crabbe, you are about a decade out.

If you want to read the official cabinet papers, inter-office memos, press reports and other documents they can be downloaded from the RNA 10 Area document Archive.  (http://rna-10-area.net/archive.html)

Crabbe Papers (90.5Mb .pdf) (http://www.rna-10-area.net/files/crabb.pdf)

Back to the quiz, thinking hats on.

James
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Post by: stokerstan on April 14, 2008, 10:01:02 AM
James, Does it have any connections with 007?

Cath
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Post by: James Hutton on April 14, 2008, 02:23:36 PM
James, Does it have any connections with 007?

Cath

Quite correct Cath. In fact, here's the news headlines from the era.

(http://www.rna-10-area.co.uk/yabbfiles/Attachments/paper.jpg)

James
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Post by: James Hutton on April 16, 2008, 09:55:24 AM
It was James Bond in You Only Live Twice.

The ship was HMS Tenby, and I believe the filming took place off Malta in mid-winter.

James
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Post by: James Hutton on April 22, 2008, 12:29:29 PM
Slight twist...

Name the last RN Warship with three funnels

James
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Post by: limeybiker on April 22, 2008, 06:42:30 PM
Apollo, Manxman, Abdiel.


Ride safe
Barry
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Title: Re: Guess the ship.
Post by: James Hutton on April 22, 2008, 07:14:20 PM
Hi Barry,

Welcome aboard.
Sorry, but it's none of the above.

James
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Post by: deepdurks on April 22, 2008, 07:47:18 PM
Hi, the last three funneller would be the Bristol and is the pennant the church flag?  a combination of the George cross and Dutch flag signifying a truce between the warring parties during church services.

regards :)
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Post by: James Hutton on April 22, 2008, 09:51:46 PM
HMS Bristol is correct. Only Type 82 - now used as a floating classroom.

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Post by: Dave on April 23, 2008, 05:57:27 PM

 HMS Bristol  3rd April 2008
 
  (http://usera.imagecave.com/minworth/Pompey/HMSBristol3rdApril2008Thursday139.jpg)
Title: Re: Guess the ship.
Post by: James Hutton on April 29, 2008, 09:30:00 AM
I think James has got it in for me ! It's because I got all his guess the ships thing right !! I notice he's packed that in,bit chicken maybe??

(http://www.hutton-web-design.co.uk/images/guess.jpg)

Both ships, date and place, otherwise no second helpings of plum duff.

James
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Post by: stokerstan on April 30, 2008, 12:15:30 AM
 ???Well James this is a good one! the best I can come up with is Royal Oak, and Graff Spee at the 1937 Spithead Review ?  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Guess the ship.
Post by: James Hutton on April 30, 2008, 08:16:30 AM
Right on the Hun, wrong RN warship.

Place and date are correct.

James

Title: Re: Guess the ship.
Post by: stokerstan on May 01, 2008, 10:55:07 AM
Is it H.M.S. Resolution? :-\ :-\
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Post by: James Hutton on May 16, 2008, 06:06:57 PM
Sorry for the break in service -

It's the Resolution, congratulations Stan.

How about this?

(http://www.rna-10-area.co.uk/yabbfiles/Attachments/crest.gif)

James
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Post by: stokerstan on May 19, 2008, 06:27:20 PM
 ??? Need a bit of time on this one James !! ???
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Post by: stokerstan on May 20, 2008, 10:19:18 PM
 ::) I can claim no rum for this one James !! total fluke I have to admit, I heard about Walker from my father who talked about him after the war,held him high regard. I was reading about him,in Janes this afternoon (yes I still use the printed word) after reading up about your Hun aircraftcarrier!
I suppose I must just be naturally gifted !! or a lateral thinker?   alright just lucky !!!!!!
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Post by: James Hutton on May 23, 2008, 02:06:00 PM
A clue, I must be too soft.

It's not a ship!

James.
Title: Re: Guess the ship.
Post by: stokerstan on May 24, 2008, 01:10:57 AM
 ???H.M.S Kestral  ???
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Post by: James Hutton on May 24, 2008, 02:36:39 PM
Wrong Avian friend.

James
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Post by: stokerstan on May 24, 2008, 03:50:42 PM
I knew it wa not that; just testing you ::)
Is it perhaps H.M.S. Kite?
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Post by: James Hutton on May 24, 2008, 08:34:55 PM
Latitude:- 53 35 35N

Longitude:- 02 51 35W               

Grid Ref:- SD425114

Height ASL:- 78 feet

Any help?

James
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Post by: stokerstan on May 24, 2008, 09:09:51 PM
 :-[ Well as you ask James, No it isn't! As a skilled stoker I was required to navigate my way from bunk to boiler-room, and back again,sometimes even after tot time!!
 Thinking about it, this probably explains why we have spent so much time in the last couple of years wandering round the Yorks dales lost!!
Anyway, I shall continue to ponder this one, 78feet at sea level? wireless mast?   ::) I'm working on it !!!!
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Post by: Dave on May 24, 2008, 09:43:15 PM
   
       James is it near Liverpool   Dave
Title: Re: Guess the ship.
Post by: James Hutton on May 24, 2008, 09:47:45 PM
:-[ Well as you ask James, No it isn't! As a skilled stoker I was required to navigate my way from bunk to boiler-room, and back again,sometimes even after tot time!!
 Thinking about it, this probably explains why we have spent so much time in the last couple of years wandering round the Yorks dales lost!!
Anyway, I shall continue to ponder this one, 78feet at sea level? wireless mast?   ::) I'm working on it !!!!

Stan, I was always taught that the words skilled and stoker were mutually exclusive, a little like military intelligence!

   
       James is it near Liverpool   Dave

Very good, quite close.

James
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Post by: stokerstan on May 24, 2008, 10:24:54 PM
 >:(How very rude !!    Anyway whats Liverpool got to do with all this, I have been checking in my introduction to British Raptors, and this bird looks like either a white tailed eagle(haliaeetus albicilla) or (pandion haliaetus) the Osprey ! I have no idea how big they grow to, but 78 foot sounds a bit scary !

I think Dave sounds to have got this one..... I give in. :'(.
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Post by: Dave on May 25, 2008, 09:30:18 AM

 Not me Stan just helping you    :)  Dave
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Post by: stokerstan on May 25, 2008, 10:30:05 AM
No problems Dave we were only toying with this lad James!! of course the answer is H.M.S Ringtail at R.N.A.S Burscough.

  Circus Cyaneus The Harrier, the female or immatures are brown with white rump and barred tail..hense name Ringtail. Now there won't be a lot of people who know that !!

 I once filled in a form (it was about the time of the  outbreak of Britains Modern Navy) and in response to the question " what would be your choice of next draft " I foolishly filled in "Inskip wireless station" Lancs. :P England !!
 Two weeks later I got shunted on a two year stint to Singapore!
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Post by: James Hutton on May 31, 2008, 08:26:32 PM
New one...

I need the name of the CO and the reasons for a court martial.

James
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Post by: limeybiker on June 01, 2008, 07:50:09 PM
Seeing the ships crest, reminds me of an incident at HMS Gamecock, can you imagine walking around with that on your cap tally, RNAS Bramcote was my first draft from the Jack Dusty School at Wetherby HMS Ceres.
We were having Admiral's divisions, for the baby wafus, when the admiral's wife pointed at the ship's mascot in a cage next to the skipper and said, that's not a Gamecock, it's a game hen.
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Post by: stokerstan on June 04, 2008, 09:55:07 PM
 :(Tough one this !! If its the Caine Mutiny? its Humphry Bogart and his No 1 got court martialed for taking over the ship when he thought the skipper was nuts!! No excuse there of course ! good movie,
I'm stalling on this one, havn't a clue yet!!!! :'(
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Post by: James Hutton on June 05, 2008, 05:06:12 PM
Stan,

It's a real life ship, real life CO and a real life court martial.

James
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Post by: Gary on June 06, 2008, 11:34:51 AM
Hi James.
Is it HMS ROYAL OAK  I remember reading a book years ago of the "Royal Oak Mutiny" and I thnk the CO Vice Admiral Kenneth Dewar was subject to a Courts Martial in 1928.
Cheers
Gary
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Post by: James Hutton on June 06, 2008, 02:16:21 PM
Hi Gary,

It's not Royal Oak. It's during WW2.

James
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Post by: stokerstan on June 06, 2008, 08:23:57 PM
Well Gary you may not have solved the Guess the ship, but you raised quite an interesting item !
I Googled the Royal Oak mutiny,having never heard of it and found it very interesting!!will do more research !!
Now back to James little problem !! ???
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Post by: James Hutton on June 19, 2008, 01:44:39 AM
Struggling?

Think of a ship with bees.

James
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Post by: stokerstan on June 20, 2008, 08:26:37 PM
 ??? I am thinking of Bee's,with not a great deal of joy !! :-\ I will continue to think >:(
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Post by: stokerstan on June 24, 2008, 01:16:56 AM
 I was thinking of the American Charles Mcvays  of the USS Indianapolis but The picture does not look right
  is our ship a Brit ?
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Post by: James Hutton on June 24, 2008, 09:17:49 AM
Oh yes, as British as Coronation Street.

The captain was court martialled for prematurely scuttling his ship when it could possibly still take the fight to the enemy. Subsequent investigations have cast doubt on this.

James
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Post by: stokerstan on July 04, 2008, 07:26:58 PM
 The coronation street bit is no use havn't watched it for years !! Can get no where with the bees, now if you had said cochroaches that might spark somthing,Vic was awash with the beasties, just done a little educational bit for the Flat Top about them,you must read it in the next issue.

You may have guessed I have todate got nowhere with this one yet, but hi ho will try harder.

Cockroaches can be very affectionate pets, need little attention no food .................... ;)
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Post by: James Hutton on July 04, 2008, 08:19:06 PM


(http://www.hmsvictoriousassociation.com/images/STERN-RAS.jpg)

Its namesake.

James.
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Post by: stokerstan on July 21, 2008, 01:53:34 PM
 :'(Abject surrender!! I cannot come up with anything at all !!!  :'( :'(
   ::) However this is still only four to me and one to you James !! and the answer better be a good one !!
     
          despondent Stoker Stan ???
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Post by: James Hutton on July 21, 2008, 05:05:50 PM
The ship was HMS Manchester, a Town Class cruiser (Gloucester, subtype).

She was torpedoed in 1942 off the North African coast as part of Operation Pedestal, her captain scuttled her rather than let risking the new radar to be captured. Harold Drew, was court-martialled due to the Admiralty's belief that the ship was still navigable and capable of reaching a neutral port. Captain Drew was initially led to believe that he was taking part in an enquiry, and was only informed at the end of the trial that he was in fact being charged with negligence by a court martial.

The Bees come from the crest - (http://www.rna-10-area.net/images/crests/manchester.gif)

Hope that helps!

James
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Post by: stokerstan on July 21, 2008, 11:58:59 PM
Good one James, what a story ! Have Googled Drew, and it certainly is a strange tale,it makes one wonder who was worse the French, Germans or the Admiralty ?

  Quite liked the Manchester web site.  :-\
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Post by: Dave on September 09, 2008, 10:22:22 PM

 
 Used this one earlier   
 
        Name the  HMS
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Post by: stokerstan on September 11, 2008, 12:10:59 AM
Well it wasn't anything I was on!! Just look at that black smoke    More air more air the skipper would have been going balistic.
   Have to think a bit about this.
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Post by: James Hutton on September 11, 2008, 09:04:49 AM
Town Class cruiser? Gloucester sub-class?

James.
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Post by: Dave on September 11, 2008, 09:24:20 AM

 Sorry no help with this one yet  :)
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Post by: James Hutton on September 11, 2008, 09:37:36 AM
OK,

HMS Scouse , sorry Liverpool.

James
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Post by: Dave on September 11, 2008, 12:38:21 PM

 Sorry no  :)
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Post by: stokerstan on September 11, 2008, 08:18:53 PM
 Is it the original Sheffield ?
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Post by: Dave on September 11, 2008, 10:15:02 PM

 Again No   :)    little help tomorrow    ;D
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Post by: Dave on September 14, 2008, 08:44:15 PM

  Little help   she was on the measured mile 23rd May 1939    :)
 
               Also old ships :)
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Post by: stokerstan on September 14, 2008, 10:08:20 PM
HMS Apollo ? or Welshman ?  two funnels are right its all the guns that throw me!
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Post by: Dave on September 14, 2008, 10:09:56 PM
 Sorry Stan  not long to go :)
 I used to polish the ones down aft with Johnsons Silicone Wax polish    them were the days, sitting astride the barrels   
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Post by: stokerstan on September 15, 2008, 10:26:41 PM
    Must be Belfast !! sitting astride what, polishing      there's no answere to that !!
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Post by: Dave on September 15, 2008, 10:40:59 PM

 
  Well done Stan  :)   Have a Tot   if only   Dave     yes old ships